Chapter 3. Ancestral Names:
Roy(desJardins), (deNorseman) - Morin - Saindon - Hebert - Caron & more
Sources: Generation 1-3: Sister Veronica Roy CSJ, Our Saindon Cousins: 1718 - 1990
Generation 1-3: Sister Veronica Roy CSJ, Ma Famille: Hebert, St. Peter, Morin, Senesac 1639 - 1994
Generations 4 - 26: Ancestry.com, Rootsweb, Geni. Biography.com; and other internet sites
I add to and correct periodically - last updated 8/11/2015. UNDER RECONSTRUCTION
Roy - traced through the male Roy name only
Timeline:
58-51 B.C.Roman emperor Julius Caesar conquers Gaul, which is now France.
486-511 A.D. A tribe called the Franks rules the region. The land is named for them.
The Treaty of Verdun: 843 - The Carolingian Empire with three main divisions: West, Middle and East Francia, into the three kingdoms for the three surviving sons of Louis the Pious, the son and successor of Charlemagne (747 - 814).
Capetian dynasty, 987–1328
Hereditary rule of Aquitaine by Counts of Poitiers, 951–120x
Hereditary rule of Normandy by Viking Dukes of Normandy, 911–1204
History of the Normans into France
By the end of the 9th century the Vikings came to Scotland to raid and settle. It is curious that the Vikings settled so quickly in Scotland and Northern and east Ireland, and slower in England. ... To this day you can find Scottish Clans with direct Viking (Norse) descent.
Normans that invaded England in 1066 came from Normandy in Northern France. However, they were originally Vikings from Scandinavia.
At the beginning of the tenth century, the French King, Charles the Simple, had given some land in the North of France to a Viking chief named Rollo. He hoped that by giving the Vikings their own land in France they would stop attacking France.
The land became known as Northmannia, the land of the Northmen. It was later shortened to Normandy. The Vikings intermarried with the French and by the year 1000, they were no longer Viking pagans, but French speaking Christians.
In the year 1030 a group of Normans conquered land in Italy. By 1099 they had taken over most of Southern Italy.
Although the Normans are best remembered for their military achievements, they also showed remarkable skill in government especially in Italy.
The Normans established many schools, monasteries, cathedrals and churches in both Italy and England and after conquering England built many castles to defend their new land.
Good sources for Norman history include the buildings, many of which survive to today, writings of the men of the time [primary sources], and the Bayeaux Tapestry, which shows the Norman invasion and conquest of England.
Our first recorded ancestor was Undweyn de Norseman.
most likely, a Viking from Scandinavia.
Generation:
26. Undweyn Maccus/MacCusthe de Norseman - Born @ 1050-1055. Perthshire, (or Roxburghshire) Scotland. Died 1090. Perthshire, Scotland. Married: 1080. Lady Platitudinous de Norseman (of the Scottish Maxwell Clan). Perthshire, Scotland. According to an internet postings.
Maccus is common in the border countries as a place name. A scottish gaelic name of south west scotland. For example, Longphort maccus. or Maccuses wylle = a pool or well.
Who was his father? One source among many indicates Malcolm III Longneck, Canmore, King of Scotland, was Undweyn's father. Malcolm III is credited with killing his rival MacBeth. That same source shows that Ingeborg Finnsdatter is the wife of Malcolm III and our ancestor's mother. Duncan II, King of Scots, was their 1st born.
Another source shows that Donald III Bane Moramer of Scotland is Undweyn's father. That same source also shows Bethoc de Atholl the mother. B. 1041, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
However, the overwhelming and the majority of evidence shows, or speculates that King MacBeth of Scotland is his father. Macbeth, MacFindlaech Mac Bethad, 17th King of Scotland. Macbeth (Mac-Beth) was born in Alba, central Scotland around 1005 the same year his grandfather became king.
At the age of 7, Macbeth was sent to a Christian monastery to be educated by monks - a requirement for all important chieftain's sons.
Historians describe the young Macbeth as tall, fair haired and handsome, with a ruddy complexion. Ruaidri (ri- king)(red haired king). From Wikipedia: "Mac Bethad mac Findlaích (Modern Gaelic: MacBheatha mac Fhionnlaigh, anglicised as Macbeth, and nicknamed Ri Deircc, "the Red King"
Around age 15, Macbeth's cousins, Malcolm III and Gillecomgain, killed his father (Findlaech MacRuaridh, an earl, Ruler of Moray in the province in northern Scotland), possibly for being too close to Malcom II, King of Scotland.
After his education Macbeth reappeared around 1032, when his cousin, Gillecomgain, was killed by order of Malcolm II for his killing of Findlaech, MacBeth's father, Findlaech MacRuaridh, was Mormaer. (If King MacBeth MacFindlaich Scotland is the father of the legitimate or illegitimate Undweyn, then MacBeth's Father, Finlay MacRory was his grandfather.) (Mac = of a Clan.)
Macbeth was then elected Mormaer of Moray, King of Moray and King of Fortrui, from 1040 and soon married Gillecomgain's widow, Grouch, and adopted her son, Lulach. The marriage strengthened his claim to the throne. to be continued. (biography.com)
MacBeth's mother, Doada was the second daughter of Malcolm II. Anopther source shows that King MacBeth's mother, Donalda (Doada), daughter of Kenneth II, the House of Dunkeld.
Macbeth took the throne after killing his cousin, King Duncan I, in batle in 1040. In the early 1050s, Siward (of Scandinavian origin, and general of the English forces) Earl of Northumbria (Yorkshire), against MacBeth. In 1046, Siward, unsucesseffully attempted to dethrone Macbeth in favor of Malcolm III, House of Dunkell.
In 1054, Macbeth was defeated amd apparently forced by Siward to yield part of southern Scotland to Malcolm III. Siward died in 1055. A few years later, Macbeth was killed (beheaded) in 1057, in the battle of Lumphanan, Aberdeenshire by his cousin, Malcolm III (who assisted in killing Macbeth's father), with assistance from the English. MacBeth was King of the Scots (also known as the King of Alba, until his death. His alleged son, Undeweyn was born two years earlier.
There is also great debut whether MacBeth and his wife, Gruoch (1020?-1054?), had children, whether Lady Macbeth had a child (Lulach) by a former husband, or whether she was a wet nurse only. It has not been disproven that the King was not the father of Undweyn. Regardless, it was not usual for Kings to have illegitimate children. For example, Charlemagne was a Christian and it is known that he had many mistresses and 18 children.
Gruoch, daughter of Beoedh (Boîte mac Cinaeda/Kenneth), son of (Cinaed III) Kenneth III, 1034. (Granddaughter of Malcolm II.)
Another source indicates Undweyn's mother (King MacBeth's wife or mistress) was Princess of Scotland, Bethoc Beatrix de Atholl, Scotland
Macbeth became king of Moray and became king of the Scots when Duncan was killed in 1040. Duncan's father Crinon was killed at Dunkeld in 1045. MacBeth had as much right as Duncan to the throne and ruled successfully for 17 years. He was a generous friend of the church and reported to have made a pilgrimage to Rome in 1050 where he gave money to the poor.
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In 1052, Macbeth became embroiled in the conflict between Godwin, Earl of Wessex and Edward the Confessor when he received a number of Norman exiles in his court perhaps becoming the first king of Scots to introduce feudalism to Scotland. In 1054, Edward's Earl of Northumbria, Siward, led a very large invasion of Scotland (Duncan's widow and Malcolm's mother, Suthed, was Northumbrian-born; it is probable but not proven that there was a family tie between Siward and Malcolm). The campaign led to a bloody battle in which the Annals of Ulster report 3,000 Scots and 1,500 English dead, which can be taken as meaning very many on both sides, and one of Siward's sons and a son-in-law were among the dead. The result of the invasion was that one Máel Coluim, "son of the king of the Cumbrians" (not to be confused with Máel Coluim mac Donnchada, the future Malcolm III of Scotland) was restored to his throne, i.e., as ruler of the kingdom of Strathclyde.[21]
It may be that the events of 1054 are responsible for the idea, which appears in Shakespeare's play, that Malcolm III was put in power by the English.
He is best known as the subject of William Shakespeare's tragedy Macbeth and the many works it has inspired, although the play presents a highly inaccurate picture of his reign and personality.
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Macbeth did not survive the English invasion, for he was defeated and mortally wounded or killed by the future Malcolm III ("King Malcolm Ceann-mor", son of Duncan I)[22] on the north side of the Mounth in 1057, after retreating with his men over the Cairnamounth Pass to take his last stand at the battle at Lumphanan.[23]
died 15 August 1057)The Prophecy of Berchán has it that he was wounded and died at Scone, sixty miles to the south, some days later.[24] Macbeth's stepson Lulach mac Gille Coemgáin was installed as king soon after.
Unlike later writers, no near contemporary source remarks on Macbeth as a tyrant. The Duan Albanach, which survives in a form dating to the reign of Malcolm III, calls him "Mac Bethad the renowned". The Prophecy of Berchán, a verse history which purports to be a prophecy, describes him as "the generous king of Fortriu", and says:
The red, tall, golden-haired one, he will be pleasant to me among them; Scotland will be brimful west and east during the reign of the furious red one.
There is debate whether the King was buried on the holy Isle of Iona (3 miles long and 1.5 miles wide), or near the Peel of Lumphanas in Aberdeenshire.
25. ([Sir] Maccus Filius [son of] Undweyn, Saxon Lord in North of England, Macuswell or deMaxwell) Leroy de Norseman - Born: @1090 Perthshire, Ecosse (Scotland). Died: @1150-1159. Atholl, Perthshire, in the interior of Scotland. The well near the headwaters of River Tay [Tatha - longest river in Scotland] is named after Maccus, namely Maccus Well or the Maxwell Clan. The sons who stayed there are an established Maxwell lineage. Maccus (Max) Filius Leroy was from the Maxwell clan.
Marriage: 1117 to Miscibility Lady de Norseman. Born 1100. Died 1140.
Roy/LeRoy/DesJardins:
The de Norseman family goes back into myths and legends, but more than likely this is our ancestral family. Those with the last names in their family tree of Roy, Le Roy, Beaumont, Clare and Mortimer, have Viking ancestors since most of the Norman warriors, first known as Vikings, were from the Scandanavian seafaring pirates and traders who raided and settled in northwestern Europe during the 8th and 11th century.
It is known the Roy name earlier in history was spelling Le Roy. LeRoy family records are thought to have been burned in the 13th century. During the 13th century, the church waged a brutal campaign against the Cathars and nearly every text that could be found was destroyed.
Nevertheless, the Roy/LeRoy lineage is traceable to 1055 when the Viking/Norseman of southern and central Scandinavia moving into Scotland, and then into Normandy, France (xxxx). From there they went to the Province of Quebec, Canada (1608) and immigrated to Graham County, northwest Kansas, United States (1899).
The Roy name was also associated with Jarden and the name Roy des Jardens, or Roy dit DesJardins. According to scotweb.com.uk "The Clan Jardine is believed to be of French origin. The French word jardin means of the garden or orchard and it is presumed that the Jardine family originally came from France.
From Vikings to Nortmann, Northman, Norseman, Norman, Normanni, Normandy:
Invasion of Normandy by the Scots/Vikings/Norseman
The Viking Age (793-1066). Norseman (Scandinavians) explored and settled in Scotland and elsewhere by seas and rivers for trade, raids and conquest. They were rough, wild, merciless corsairs and some were brutal raiders, but history suggests their invasion was retaliation to violence from Christians to them as pagan people. In the 9th century they were pagans before their conversion to Christianity. Or perhaps it was motivated by over population, trade inequities and lack of viable farmland. Adapted from wikipedia
Viking was a common term for Norseman. The language is an earlier form of modern Scandinavian languages. During the Viking Age, Norseman explored and settled in Scotland and elsewhere by seas and rivers for trade, raids and conquest. Some were brutal raiders but history suggests their invasion was retaliation to violence from Christians to pagan people, or motivated by over population, trade inequitities and lack of viable farmland. Wikipedia source. Old Frankish word Nortmann, "Northman" or Norsemen (man from the north), refers to the group of people, the tribes who settled in southern and central Scandinavia, and who spoke what is now called the Old Norse language between 8th to 11th centuries
Charlemagne (742-814), Emperor, King Charles I, the Great lived during the Viking Age (793-1066). He crowned his son Louis the Pious (778-840) king of Aquitaine.
A short 30 years after Charlemagne died, the Northmen sailed up the Seine and sacked Paris. Charles the Simple (879-929) (the straightforward) (of the Carolingian dynasty) granted Rollo, the leader of the Northmen who settled at Rouen, a large section of the country in the north of Gaul, providing the pagans pay homage to, and become converted to Christianity. They ultimately settled in the northwest of Gaul (present day Normandy, France). Within a short time, they adopted the language, the manners and the religion of the French, and picked up their spirit without losing their native virtues.
Norman/Viking raids in the 10th century were positioned across the channel from England. The closest point being the area we know as Normandy. During Norman conquests a large number of Norsemen sailed in their long boats up the Seine River and sacked Paris, and invaded other parts of France. They settled in northern France and the name was Latinized as Normanni and then entered Old French as Normands, Normans, and thus the name Normandy.
The history of the Normans (of the transformed Scandinavian race, who settled in Northern Gaul (France and Northern Italy), is a continuation of the story of the Norsemen. They carried on their Scandinavian virtues of strength, independence and daring to set up a kingdom in the Mediterranean lands and to set a line of Norman kings upon the English throne. Normans, they became cultured, polished and chivalrous people, and became chivalrous, Christian knights eager for pilgrimages and crusades. They went on to the battlefield of Palestine and won as valient knights of Christendom.
Members of the Jardine family travelled with William during the Norman conquest of England in 1066. However records of the name Jardine do not appear in Scotland until 1153 with the name Wmfredus de Jardine appearing on several charters. However, another source says, "The first mention of the name Jardine is contained in Hollingshead’s Chronicles of England as one of the Normandic knights that fought for William at the Battle of Hastings (AD 1066). There is also evidence that may suggest that the Jardines were of Norse extraction that migrated to Normandy with a warrior named Rollo prior to 1066. Rollo was a natural diplomat and his mission was to unite and convert the Saxons, a Germanic trible of pagan worshipers. He was athlectic, believed in education. Under Rollo, the Northmen were like pirates as they descended upon the coast of Gaul before the end of the reign of Charlemagne.
In the early part of the 11th century, Southern Italy was secured a time before the conquest of England. The Normans were sought after for the superior fighting qualities in the constant feuds and espeically in warefare with the Moslems, who at this time possessed the island of Sicily and were troubling the neighboring shores of Italy. The Normans possed all Southern Italy of Sicily and was known as the Kingdom of Naples. In the meantime, they built up a strong maritime power and soon cleared the Saracen (the nomadic Muslim tribes) and opened the water route for the crusaders to the Holy Land. The most noted leader was Robert Giscard (d. 1085)
Under Rollo (and offspring who became Dukes of Normandy) the power of the Normans in France became consilidated. The country of Normandy grew more populated through population growth, and the arrival of new Scandinavians from the Northern countries. Then, after a hundred years Southern Europe and England became the scene.
The Northmen by now were Normans, which was a momentous occasion for the French and the history of European civilization., including the crusading movement in the 11th and 12th century.
The First Crusades took place during this time (1095/6-1099). At Clermont (central France), Pope Urban II called for a holy war against enemies of Christendom for the recovery of Christian property or in defense of the church or Christian people. Later known as the First Crusade and stirred France and Southern Italy to fight again the Saracens/Moslems/Muslims (who had taken over the part of Europe now called Spain.) Spurred by appeals from the Byzantine emperor Alexios Komnenos and reports of difficulties from Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land, the west launched a military campaign to wrest the holy city of Jerusalem from Muslim control.
Princes and nobles, saints and sinners gathered under the standard of the Cross (crois = crusades). 80,000 +/- including women and children, set out for Constantinople overland. While armies are assembled, a "People's Crusade" sets out, terrorizing Jews on their route. Poorly armed and disorganized, most never reach enemy territory; those who do, perish at the hands of a superior Muslim force.The object of all the crusades was the care of the sick and wounded, the entertainment of Christian pilgrims, the guarding of holy places and battling for the Cross. Half died from hunger and exposure. Almost upon reaching their destination, at the Bosphorus strait were surprised by the Turks and almost all were slaughtered.
Next, dukes and counts gathered an expedition said to have number 300,000 men. those who survived traveled by different routes, but only half lived to gather in Constantinople. On July 15, 1099, the main Crusader forces led by the nobility captured Antioch/Syria, now Turkey, and walked 300 miles to Jerusalem taking the city by storm and slaughtering the infidels - the Saracens - the nomad Arabs/Muslims.
The Crusaders set up a model feudal state. (The holding of land in fief or fee and the resulting relation of lord to vassal (a worker) and characterized by homage, legal and military service to tenants, and forfeiture. A combination of legal, likitary, economic and social customer between the 9th and 15th century. A way of structuring society around relationships from the holding of land in exchange for service or labor.
In 1146, the ancient city Edessa (the hometown of Abraham, which may date back to 9,000 BC (now Sanliurfa or Urfa, Turkey), near Mesopotamia was taken by the Turks and the entire population of Christians were slaughtered or sold into slavery.
1137 Eleanor of Aquitaine marries the man who, two months later, becomes King Louis VII of France. She brings to the marriage the duchy of Aquitaine—a far larger domain than that possessed by the French kings. Their marriage is annulled in 1152. Eleanor immediately marries Henry Plantagenet
1154. He becomes Henry II, king of England, in 1154. This marriage brings Aquitaine, Normandy, and England under one rule, marking the beginning of English presence in France. Eleanor becomes Queen of France, England and lead a crusade to the Holy Land. Her court at Poitiers becomes a great center for poetry and culture.
24. Robert LeRoy Norseman, aka Roger LeRoy Ancestral File #227246080. Born: November 23, 1120. Mezieres, Ile de Vilane, Bretagne (Brittany).
Died: November 1180.
Married: @ 1145
Spouse: Lady Leroy: Born @1125
Under investigation: There is a Menzies clan (Norman) in origin, granted lands in the 12th century in Lothian, in exchange for military service. The same route other Scots clans with Norman origin such as Bruce, Moray (Murray), and st. Clair established in Scotland. The first definitive chief was Sir Robert de Meyneris. He recieved a grant of lands in West Atholl.
Two years after Robert aka Roger LeRoy married Lady Leroy, the second crusades took place.
Timeline: 1147-1149 - The Second Crusade:
In 1112 Saint Bernard (1090–1153) joins the abbey of Cîteaux, founded in 1098 near Dijon in an effort to adhere more strictly to Benedictine Rule and to restore monastic rigor. Bernard founds the abbey of Clairvaux in 1115. Concerned with maintaining orthodoxy, Bernard becomes involved in the fight against heresy in southwestern France and, in 1146 at Vézelay, calls for the Second Crusade.
After the first crusade famed religious military orders, The Hospitalers, or Knights of St. John, took their name from the monks of the Hospital of St. John at Jerusalem. They were charged to care for the sick, poor or injured pilgrims coming to the Holy Land.The monks added knighthood to their monastic vows. The Knights Hospitaller @ 1099 (- present) were headquartered in Jerusalem and later Rhodes, Malta and Rome.
The Knights Templar were formed 1119-1312 and named for the building on the site of Solomon's Temple . They added religious vows to their military vows. They were among the most wealthy and powerful of the Western Christian military orders and were a favored charity throughout Christendom. There was a fighting branch and a financial/eary form of banking branch and established Letters of Credit for pilgrims journeying to the Holy Land.
23. Albert LeRoy aka De Machi LeRoy (of Mac - and still carrying the Maxwell name) #113623040. Born: 1155. Died: 1210 (at age 55)
Married: @ 1190 to Lady LeRoy De Norseman. Born: 1170
Timeline: The Third Crusade (1189-1192) After the 1187 capture of Jerusalem by Saladin, the sultan of Egypt, there was much enthusiasm to recover the Holy City, the birthplace of their religion. Another fraternity, the Teutonic Knights was established. They became wealthy through gifts of the pious and acquired numerous estates and castles in Europe and Asia. Richard the Lionhearted is remembered for exploits in Palestine. At the Siege of Acre, The German overland troops was decimated in Asia Minor by hardships and the swords of the Turks, the Emperor Frederick drowned while crossing a river, and the survivors returned to Germany. The English and French joined their arms and took the sea route which forced Saladin to retreat. King Richard petitioned Saladin for access to the tomb of Christ. Returning home, Richard was captured and imprisoned by fellow rival, Emperor Henry VI and held for an enormous ransom.
TIMELINE: 1202-1204 - Fourth Crusade - to be added
22. Jean LeRoy Demachi - Born: 1203. Died: 1272. (age 69) #56811520
Married: @ 1230 to Alide. She was born 1210 #56811521
21. (Seigneur) Pierre LeRoy De Saint Florent - #1048576 or 28405760; Born: 1240. St. Malo, Ille-et-Vilaine, Brittany, Bretagne, Kingdom of France. Died: 1298. Saint Florent.Married: @ 1275
Seigneur was the name formerly given in France to someone who had been granted a fief by the crown, with all its associated rights over person and property. This form of lordship was called seigneurie, the rights that the seigneur was entitled to were called seigneuriage, and the seigneur himself was the seigneur justicier, because he exercised greater or lesser jurisdiction over his fief. Since the repeal of the feudal system on 4 August 1789 in the wake of the French Revolution, this office has no longer existed and the title has only been used for sovereign princes by their families.
Coy Lady LeRoy de St. Florent, Seigneur: Born: @ 1250. D. 1285. Her parents were: Giosue DiCaprio and Maria Michela Caprio Florillo.
The following was found on the internet in the book, Historie de Berry. "Seigneur de Saint-Florent & Villeneurve-sur-Cher, acquit la moitie de ces deux Terres de noble Homme Jean des Barres S. du Bois-roferain, pour fept cens vingt-cinq livres, par Contract reçu par Pierre des Croffes Notarire Jure, le cinquième jour aprem le Dimanche que l'Eglise chante Letare Jerufalem, l'an 1278, Il fut Pere du.)" (Until I can get an accurate translation this is mine: Receipt of half, the land, wooded, and/for 25 pounds by contract ... Year 1278.)
TIMELINE: 1215 - Magna carta signed. The instrument the English barons and clergy wrested from the tyrant King John (who violated the rights) in which the rights of people were clearly defined and guaranteed.
20. (Seigneur) Gauthier Le Roy dit St. Florent sur Cher # 524288" Born: 1285. Died: 1365. St. Florent, Normandy (II. S. de Saint Florent & de Villeneuve sur-Cher, do Seigneur)
Married: @1310. Alide Le Roy dit St. Florent - Born: @ 1290. #14202880.
St. Florent sur Cher and Villeneuve are located on the River Cher in the Loire Valley which is called the valley of the Kings because royalty built their winter homes/castles and chateaux here. This is referred to as the Crade of the French and the Garden of France due to the abundance of vineyards, fruit orchards (such as cherries), and artichoke and asparagus fields, which line the banks of the river. It is notable for its historic towns, architecture and wines, the valley has been inhabited since the Middle Palaeolithic period. In 2000, UNESCO added the central part of the Loire River valley to its list of World Heritage Sites.
Timeline: 1307: The Abolition of the Order of the Templars - by King Philip the Fair parallel the suppression of the English monasteries by Henry VIII in the 16th century.
Timeline: "In 1285, the ancient Celtic line of Scottish chiefs became extinct. A great number of claimants for the vacant throne immediately arose. Chief among these were Robert Bruce and John Balliol, distinguished noblemen of Norman descent. Robert Bruce had a grandson by the same name." (p. 206. Mediaeval and Modern History. Philip Van Ness Myers. 1885.)
19. (Seigneur) Guillaume Le Roy #262144 or #7101440: (III Seigneur de St-Florent & de Ville-neuve-sur-Cher. Note: There is a St. Florent, near the east coast of Normandie and St. Florent Villeneuve-sur-Cher in the centralized Valley of the Kings.) He was born: 1319. St. Florent. Died: Sometime after 1365.
Married: 1360. Marguerite of France (unknown) le Roy. Born: 1343. File #7101441. Son Jacques was born 1363/5.
Timeline: Guillaume LeRoy was nine years old at the time the Valois branch of the Capetian kings dynasty acceded to the French throne and ended in 1328 with Philip VI (1328–50). He was 27 (and three years after his marriage in 1360) when the first of the battle began starting the Hundred Year War (1363). Battle of Crecy (1346) when England invaded France where "Twelve hundred knights, the flower of French chivalry, and thousands of foot soldiers lay dead in the field." Our ancestor survived the Black Death Plague (1347-1349) when he was 28-30. Philip VI's claim to the crown, contested by Edward III of England, sparked the conflict; the two countries remained in intermittent warfare until 1453, when Charles VII regained Guyenne and Normandy, and definitively drove the English out of France.
The mid-14th century was when Norman French words fused with Old Saxon to create modern English.
18. (Seigneur) Jacques Le Roy #131072 or #3550720. Birth: 1363. Died 1434 (nineteen years before his son) at Villeneuve, France. (Seigneur: a Lord, a feudal lord, or lord of the manor, landowner of the estate, landed gentry, a man of rank or authority)
??? Married: @ 1372 or 1384 to Impenitent Lady LeRoy - Born: ????
Married Marguerte (de Villeneuve) Roy
It appears the landownership of Villeneuve ended Jacques was @ 44, within this ancestry line and was inherited by person not of lineage, Paul le Roy S. de Therieux & de Cheneviere in 1407 & Vicomte de Villenmenatt, conjoined in marriage with Perrenelle Pelorde.
17. Martin (Mathurin) Le Roy #65536 and Ancestral file# 1775360: He was born 1384. Villeneuve, Bretagne, France. Died: April 1, 1453 in Bourges, King of France. (capital of the province of Aquitaine at the end the Roman Empire, capital of the Kingdom of France in the reign of Charles VII). (Continua la pofterire. de Villeneuve.) He lived during the era of Chaucer (1343-1400), the Peasant's Revolt in 1381, and died 4-5 years after the burning of St. Joan of Arc/Orleans, 1429.)
Martin (Mathurin) Le Roy married Bienvenue Lallemand: 1413 (when he was 29)
She was born 1390. Died: 1460 - St. Malo, Bretagne,
Martin-Mathurin LeRoy was Maitre d'Hotel for some time before the death of John/Jean de France Duc de Berry, (1340-1416). The Duke died without surviving male isse. The title of Duke of Berry (duc de Berry) in the French nobility was frequently created for junior members of the French royal family.
The Berry region now consists of the départements of Cher, Indre and parts of Vienne. The capital of Berry is Bourges, a city in central France on the Yèvre river. It is the capital of the department of Cher and also was the capital of the former province of Berry.
Martin-Mathurin Le Roy was the master of the house and the treasurer. He also, supervised the wait staff, managed the economy of the Palace and regulated ceremonies. He also controlled the stables and was in command of the cavalry.
Unlike John/Jean of France/Duke of Berry, his brothers Charles V, Louis of Anjou, and Philip the Bold, Jean/John de France, the third son of John the Good and Bona of Luxembourg, never played a major role in the political history of the 14th and 15th centuries, although his elder brother and his nephew, Charles VI, often entrusted him with important governmental duties. Charles VI of France, (Charles the Mad 1368-1422) was only 11 when he was crowned king, (1380) a period marked by political chaos and Frances defeat by England at Agincourt. He was also known as Charles the Beloved.
Known as a great lord, Jean/John de France du Berry, refined and fond of luxury, like all the princes of the Valois line, seemed to have no more consuming passion than the embellishment of his various residences, especially the hotel de Nestles in Paris and the chateau of Mehun-sur-Yevre in Berry, which he filled, as his brother, Charles V has done at the Louvre and Vincennes, with the most fabulous art collections of the age. Perhaps John/Jean duc du Berry is best known for commissioning the beautifully illustrated, "Magnificant Book of Hours." Two years after LeRoy's marriage the Battle of Agincourt took place, in 1415. The duke of Berry died the next year in 1416.
Timeline: During Martin-Mathurin LeRoy's lifetime (1384-1453), his death landed at the end of the Hundred Years' War between France and England (1337–1453). Joan of Arc led French troops against the English at Orléans, ending a siege 1429. Charles VII died in 1461.
16. Thierry Le Roy aka de Villeneuve - #32768: Born: 1428. St. Malo. Died: 1501 Record #887680. He was Maitre des Requetes de l'Hotel du Roy, a counsel of the council of state, a high level judicial officer of administrative law in France and other European countries that has existed in one form or another since the Middle Ages. Maitre meaning honorific for a barrister (lawyer who acts in proceedings before a court of law), and requites (meaning appeals or petitions.) "The masters of requests were employees of Chancellor of France, whom they depended closely. They were associated with the work of justice through the hearing of the seal and the Council of the parties, which they attended."
Married: 1452 to Blanche de Flavy. Born: 1434. St. Malo. Died: 150XXX. Record # 887681 (She was not the nine year old wife of Guillaume de Flavy of St. Malo [1398] who was assassinated in the castle of Nestles en Tardenois in 1449.)
15. Jean Le Roy - Born: 1454. St. Malo. Bretagne. Died: 1476 St. Malo. (He was born a year after the Hundred Year War ended, 1337 - 1453).
Married: February 1476. In St. Malo. Genevieve Cotin #443840. She was born: 1460. St. Malo. Died: 1510. St.Malo
14. Robin Le Roy #8192 - Born: @ 1475. St. Malo Record #221920 Died: 1535.
Married 1st: 1510 in St. Malo to Collette Floury. Born: @1483. St. Malo. Bretagne. (mother of Thomas) Died:before 1515
Married 2nd: @1515 to Guillemette Morel #8193. She was Born: 1496. St. Malo. Died: 1566 (mother of Jehan)
13. Jehan (Jean) Le Roy - #4096 or #110960: Born: November 2, 1518. St Malo. Died 1597. Rennes, Brittany (Bretagne), Ille-et-Villaine.
Married - @1539 Olive LeJuiff. Born: @1523. St. Malo, Ille-et-Vilaine. Died: after 1545
12. Mathurin Le Roy #2048 or #55480 - Born: October, 5, 1545. St. Malo, France. Died: @1600 St. Malo, Brittany, (Bretagne), Ille-et-Vilaine
Married: @1568 to Jeanne Pestel. Born: April 17, 1540. St. Malo.
11. Pierre Roy DE Mavlay B. 1569 St. Malo
10. Louis Roy LeRoy 1607-1663 Dieppe, France
ERROR 11. Michel Roy dit Leroy. Born December 1, 1580. Manche, La Rochelle, St. Malo (sub prefecture), Ille-et-Vilaine (Department), Brittany/Bretagne (region), north west, Rennes (prefecture) Kingdom of France. Note: 3 1/2 hours from Dieppe, France. He died 1610.
Married: 1600 or 1608 to Julienne Dugas. She was born: 1580 Died: 1611 or 1648 in Bretagne, France
Timeline: Canada Quebec was founded in 1608.
1617: Louis XIII crowned at age of 17
1624: Cardinal Richelieu becomes principal minister
1643 - 1715: Louis XIV becomes king with Mazarin as principal minister
10. Mathurin Roy (le Roy) - Born: 1610. Notre Dame de Cougnes, La Rochelle, Manche, France. Died 1676, seven years after arriving. Died: Charlesbourg, Quebec.
Married 1st: Marguerite le Bire. January 27, 1636. Notre Dame de Cougnes. La Rochelle (Sainte Marguerite) France.
She was born 1616-1618 in France. Died: 1675. Hotel Dieu de Quebec.
Married 2nd. Esther Ramage (widow of Elie Godin.) Marriage contract between Esther and Mathurin annulled within the year on October 12, 1676.
9. Etienne (Stephen) also listed as St(EPHREM) Roy (le Roy) - Born: August 7, 1645. St. Marguerite. LaRochelle (on Bay of Biscay), Aunis, Conges, France. Etienne/Stephen worked as a mason. Died: March 1, 1690. Charlesbourg, Quebec.
He was 24 when he immigrated with his parents (Mathurin Roy-leRoy and Marguerite Le Bire in 1669. His siblings also immigrated: Marie, Mathurin, Pierre, Marguerite-Marie Roy and Marie-Catherine, born in 1659). Etienne either knew his future wife in France, met her on the ship, or upon arrival in Canada.
Married: Marguerite Navarre. August 6, 1669. Born: Dcember 26, 1641, La Rochelle, Aunis, France. She was among the wave of the Kings Daughter that came over in 1669. She was of marriageable age. Her drowy from the King Of France included: xxxx.
Died: March 12, 1725, St. Charles Borromee, Quebec
8. Jean-Baptiste Roy I - Born September 6, 1675. Baptized September 10. (Timeline: When Jean-Baptiste Roy I, was 7 years old, 1682, the Royal Court moved to Versailles. During the time of 1643 - 1715 when Louis XIV, the Sun King, reigned longer than any other French ruler. During this era, France gains power throughout Europe.) Died: April 15, 1722. Charlesbourg - St. Louis, Kamoursaka, Quebec
Married 1st: M. Anne Jeanne Hotte: October 12, 1696. Charlesbourg, Quebec. Born 1681. Died: 1711. No listing of children.
Married 2nd: Agnes/Agnus Gagnon. October 5, 1712. Charlesbourg, Chateau Richer, Quebec. Born January 17, 1688. Chateau Richer. Montmorency, Quebec. Died: December 29, 1729
Timeline: Even though Canada was founded in 1608, it wasn't until the years between 1632 - 1713, that the majority of our ancestoral French leave for Canada and settle in Quebec and Acadia between 1657 and 1669. Some left from Le Havre. A few records from Calais, Cherbourg, Brest, Lorient, La Rochelle, and Dieppe are available at the French National Archives.
7. Joseph Roy - Born: August 18, 1715. Charlesbourg (Beauport) Bellechasse, Quebec. Died: May/June 2, 1798. St. Joseph de Beauce, Beauceville, Quebec
Married 1st: Mary Louise Gagnon (8 children). November 16, 1741. Died November 6, 1758
Married 2nd: Jeanne -Mary Ann (Marie Anna or Domen Roi) Drouin. November 4, 1760, St. Joseph, de Beauce, Quebec
She was born 1739. Died 1823 (mother of Jacques + 4 children)
Timeline: Canada. During their lifetime, on April 26, 1760, French forces lay siege to Quebec City but fail to capture the city from British forces and they defeat the French at the Battle of Sainte-Foy on the Plains of Abraham. On May 9, 1760, British ships arrive at Quebec City, forcing the French army back to Montreal. The Battle of Restigouche, in what is now the Province of New Brunswick, is the last battle between France and Britain for possession of Canada during the Seven Years' War. On September 8 at that year, Montreal capitulates. Governor Vaudreuil surrenders to the British army on the terms of a treaty of capitulation.
Timeline: On February 10, 1763, The Seven Years' War ends with the signing of the Treaty of Paris. France gives the northerly portion of New France to the British in favor of keeping Guadaloupe (in the Caribbean.)
Timeline: During their lifetime, citizens storm the Bastille, a Paris prison on July 14, 1789. The French Revolution begins. Each year, France celebrates Bastille Day, the event that led to the royal family being overthrown.
6. Jacques Roy - Born: April 18, 1764. St. Joseph de Beauce. Beaumont, Montreal. Died: November 2, 1819 St. Etienne, Quebec.
Married:Marie-Elisabeth Lafantaisie. 1794. St. Joseph de Beauce, Quebec
She was born: 1761 Died: XXXX
5. Jean-Baptiste Desjardins Roy II - Born: June 27, 1796 Died: May 15, 1857. St. Roch. St. Ferdinand Cemetery.
Married 1st: February, 26, 1816 (Elisabeth Marie) Isabelle Bechard. (Her parents were: Louis Theodore Bechard and Clothilde Marguerite Marie Remillard.) St. Marguerite-de Blairfindie Church de L’Acadie, St. Jean sur Richelieu, Quebec. She was born: June 6, 1797. They had at least one child (Jean-Baptiste III, born 1829. She died 1829. Possibly in childbirth.
Married 2nd: Josephte Alexandre. August 11, 1829. St. Marguerite-de Blairfindie, Acadie, Quebec. Born:1764. Died XXXX. stepmother to Jean-Baptiste III
4. Jean-Baptiste Roy III - Born: March 1, 1829-30. St. Sebastein, Quebec. The 1901 Census shows he was a cultivateur. He died April 23, 1914. Buried: St. Clement, Beauharnois.
Married 1st: Florence Derome October 22, 1850. St.-Jacques-Le-Mineur, La Prairie, Quebec. Florence Derome was born: 1821. (Her mother was Elisabeth Coupal Derome) Florence died 1865-67, St. Sebastien, d'Iberville.
They had five children: Arsene, Ozilda, Jean-Baptiste, Philias, Marie Azilda born @1865.)
Married 2nd: Rosalie F. Lanoue, March 4, 1867. St. Sebastien, St. Jean, d'Iberville. She was born 1840. (Daughter of Charles Lanoue and Marie Dussalt. They had 12 children: Jean Orephese, Domina, Philisime, Zephirin, Emma, Hormidas, Alcidiade, Rosalide, Lumina, Georgianna, Louisia, Oscar). She died. xxxx. Cemetery: St. Sebastien, Monteregie, Le Haut, Richelieu.
3. Philseme (P.H.) Roy - Born: July 8, 1871. St. Sebastien, Iberville, Province of Quebec, Canada. He immigrated to the U.S. in 1899 or 1900. The 1901 census shows he was not living at home. In fact, in 1900 he was a boarder in the home of Joseph and Dela Brin, Richland Township, Rooks County, Kansas. He became a naturalized citizen at age 43, in 1916. He died: June or July 13, 1960, St. Anthony's Hospital, Hays, Kansas. Buried: St. Joseph Cemetery, Damar, Kansas.
Married: Laura Mae Saindon, February 14, 1904, St. Ann Catholic Church, Zurich, Kansas.
Laura Mae Saindon was born: May 8, 1885, rural Zurich, Kansas, the daughter of Jean Archille Saindon and Marie Heinriette Caron Saindon. Died: November 27, 1971, Stockton, Kansas. Buried St. Joseph Cemetery, Damar, Kansas.
They had ten living children: Dona, Edmond, Omer, John, Oscar, RoseLee, Philip, Zella, Emile, Jeannette.)
2. John Felix Roy - Born: June 21, 1910, at home rural Damar, Kansas. Died: November 30, 1978 Plainville Rural Hospital, Kansas. Buried: St. Joseph Cemetery, Damar, Kansas
Married Olive Lena Morin, August 23, 1932, St. Joseph Church, Damar, Kansas.
Olive Lena Morin was born: July 31, 1914, at home, rural Damar, Kansas; Died: September 11, 1985 at home rural Stockton, Kansas. Buried, Damar, Kansas.
They had ten living children: Kenneth Eugene Roy (1934); Ronald Warren Roy (1935-1944); Allan Everett Joseph Roy (1937-1994); Ila Mae [Sister Veronica Mary Roy CSJ] (1939-1995); Gary Jerome Roy [Father Duane G. Roy OSB] (1941); Joan Marie Roy Rader (1942), Linda Leona Roy Monarchi Cross (1945) (author) ; Roger John Roy (1949), Cheryl Ann Roy Lowenthal Calvin (1954), Rodney Greg-Craig Roy (1956) descendent.
1. Roy male blood line continues with (1.) Rodney Greg/Craig Roy. Born: July 27, 1956. St. Anthon Hospital. Hays, Kansas. Married May 24, 1980. Christine Kay Karlin (Daughter of Ronald Karlin and Virginia Dufford.) Born: May 16, 1959
They have three children. Kellie Lynn Roy, and two males: (1.a) Jason Christopher Roy and (1.b). Joshua John Roy.
X. (author) Linda Leona Roy Monarchi Cross: Born: November 29, 1945, Harwood Nursing Home, Stockton, Kansas. A few months before Linda was born, WWII ended on September 2, 1945.
Linda and David Edward Monarchi married at St. Joseph Church, Golden, Colorado in 1967. They divorced in 1974. The marriage was annulled.
Their son, David Edward Monarchi, Jr. was born at St. Anthony Hospital, Denver, 1968. He married Leslie Richter in 2012
Linda and John Randolph Cross married at St. Catherine's on the Rock, St. Malo, Allenspark, Colorado, 1983.
Christopher Randolph Cross was born, 1991, Denver, Colorado. He was adopted: 1993, Reston (Fairfax Co), Virginia.
Morin - Morin: mother's maiden name
The Morin family arrived in Canada between 1615-1700
Linda Leona Roy (Monarchi) (Cross)
Parents: John Felix Roy - Born June 21, 1910. Graham County, Kansas. Died: November 30, 1978. Plainville Hospital, Rooks County, Kansas.
Married: August 23, 1932. St. Joseph's Catholic Church, Damar, Kansas.
Olive Lena Morin - Born: July 31, 1914, Graham County, Kansas. Died: September 11, 1985. Rural Stockton, Kansas.
Maternal Grandparents:
Stanislaus Morin - Born: 1862 St. Theodore. P.Q. Died: June 10, 1929 Hospital. Hays, Kansas
Married: January 19, 1894. St. Ann's Catholic Church, Zurich, Kansas
Marie-Rose (Roseana) Hebert - Born: 1875. Died: 1917. Rural Damar, Kansas. Died during childbirth
Jean-Baptiste Morin - Born: 1822, St. Pierre de la Riviere du Sud, Quebec
Married: June 12, 1848. St. Francois du Sud, Q
Olive-Marie Morin-Morin - Born: June 5, 1828. Died 1906. St. Francoiis de la Riviere du Sud. St. Theodore, Quebec.
Marie-Olive Morin-Morin married her third cousin, Jean-Baptiste Morin, with dispensation through the Church.
Olive Marie Morins' father's line continues below with her father, Rene Morin; her grandfather, Toussainte-Rene (Irrenee) Morin; and her great-grandfather, Augustin Morin; until they merge with her husband, Jean-Baptiste Morin's line continuing with his father, Joseph Morin; brother of Olive's grandfather, Augustin.
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Rene Morin - Born: December 22, 1792. St. Francois du sud Montgamy. PQ. Died: 1844. St. Francois du la Riviere du sud.
Married: January 14, 1823
Marie-Anne (Gervais) Gendron - Born 1845. Died: 1877. St. Francoise de la Riviere du Sud, Quebec.
Rene inherited the home place at St. Francis. Rene cleared about 44 acres, leaving about four acres of timber.
Rene-Toussaint (Irenee) Morin - Born: 1767. St. Pierre du Sud. Died: April 19, 1851. (father is Augustin)
Married: February 22. 1791
1. Marie Madeleine Angelique Bouchard - Born: ? Died: March 27, 1829
Married: ?
2. Genevieve Marie Proulx - B. 1808.??? Son of Augustin: Brother of Joseph. Father of . Grandfather of Jean Baptiste Morin. JOSEPH
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Augustin Morin - Born: 1723 or 25, Quebec. Died: Decebmer 16, 1801 (his son is Toussaint-Rene)
Married: November 16, 1750 St. Francois-sud, PQ
Marie Judith Josephte Talbot - Born: 1732- Died: 1809
augustin's BROTHERS:
Joseph Morin - Born 1779. St. Pierre du Sud. Montmagny. Died: 1866
Married 1st: Francoise Blais - Born: 1770 (Mother of Augustin) 8 children. Died:
Married 2nd: Marie Octavie Alain Bloduc. 1 child.
Married 3rd: Amanda. 7 children. Son of Augustin: BROTHER of Rene-Toussaint(Irenee). Father of Rene. Grandfather of Olive
Whose children Joseph or Augustin"
Charles
Lionel
Lucille
Roland
Gabrielle
Lucien
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Pierre Morin - Born: December 23, 1683-82? Died: 1767
Married January 10, 1707. St.Thomas. Montmagny?
Marie Francoise Boulet (Boulay) - Born: 1700. Died: 1765
Pierre Morin - Born: 1661-62 Died: 1717
Married: November 8, 1682. Beaubassin Bonaventure, Q. Port Royal
Francoise Chiasson - Born: 1666 or 68. Died: 1708
Pierre Morin-Boucher - Born: 1634 or 35. Poitou, France. Died: 1690 or 1694. Restigouche, New Brunswick/Gaspe-Ouest.
Married: 1661. Port Royal, Acadia.
Marie Madeleine Martin - Born: 1637- 42. Died: 1704
conflicting data below:
Benoit Morin - Born 1601. Orne, France. Died: 1652.
Married: 1633
Theresa Girard. Born: 1615. Orne, France. Died: 1647. Orne, France
Pierre Morin - Born 1601. France
Married
Domitilla LePage Born: 1605. Granville, Manche, France.
SAINDON -names/dates lower to higher years
Pierre Saindon - Born 1680. France. Died:
Married
Marie-Jacques Marguer - Born: France
Michel Saindon - Born: 1718. France. Died: 1780. Kamouraska, P.Q.
Married: 1737. Acadia
Marie Yve Godin dit Bellefontaine - Born: Acadia. Died: 1795. Isle Verte.
Their children:
Marie Saindon - Born: 1738 . Died: 1825
Louis Saindon - born: 1741
Pierre Saindon - Born: 1748
Louis I Saindon - Born: 1741 - St. Anne des-Pays-Bas. Died: January 4, 1819
Married: 1760 or 1764. Acadia
Marie Madeleine Thibaudeau: Born: 1741 - Beaubassin, Acadia. d. 1824 - Cacouna
Of their 7 children:
1.) Magdaleine/Madeleine Saindon - Born 1763. New Brunswick. Died: 1764
2.) Louis Saindon: Born: 1765. Died Kamaouraka.
3.) Jean Baptiste Saindon - Born: 1769 - 1799 Isle Verte
4.) Francoise Saindon Bourguignon - Born: 1770. Isle Verte
5.) Marie Charlotte - Born: 1772 -
6.) Michel Saindon - Born: 1775
7.) Jacques Saindon - Born: @ 1775. Cacouna, P.Q.
Jacques Saindon - Born: @1775. Cacouna. Died: December 5, 1857 - Cacouna
Jacques lived in Rooks County, Kansas 1879
Married: August 3, 1807. St. Anne de la Pocatiere, Kamaouraksa, P.Q.
Marie-Modeste Ouelett - Born: @ 1790. St. Anne de la Pocatiere, P.Q.
Their (7) children:
Pierre 1842 - ?
Jacques 1828- ?
Semine 1824 ?
Celestin 1800 - 1895
Remi - 1815 - 1843
Domitile 1812 - ?
Tharsille 1809 ?
Celestin Saindon - Born: December 4, 1817. Cacouna, Died: January 30, 1895. Buried St. Arsene
Married: November 5, 1838. Cacouna.
Marie Henriette Talbot dit Gervais - Born September 25, 1820. St. Roch des Aulnaies. Died: December 30, 1895. Buried: St. Arsene. SEE PHOTO OF TOMBSTONE LOCATED AT ST. ARSENE.
Lived in Rooks Country, Kansas. Returned to Canada before 1895)
No Census in 1890 due to fire.
Their children: 1.) Marie Henriette Saindon married Jean Baptiste Rioux
2.) Celestin Saindon II married 1.) Elisa Beaulieu Hudon
married 2.) Georgiana Michaud
3.) Joseph Felix Saindon married 1.) Philomene ___
married 2.) Rose Lumina Levasseur
4.) Marie Philomene Caroline Saindon married Etienne Saindon
5.) Jean Archille Saindon married Henriette Caron
6.) Remi Saindon
7.) Marie Odile Saindon married Michel Morel
8.) Adelaide Saindon married Zacharie Metayer
9.)Jacques Saindon married 1.) Philomine Talbot
married 2.) Eugenia Bernier
10.) Philomine Saindon married Alphonse Courberon
11.) Marie Auralie Saindon married Alphonse Rivard
12.) Marie Adeline Saindon married Ambroise Desbien
13.) Appoline Saindon
14.) Joseph Jean-Baptiste Theophile "Johnny" Saindon married Amanda Asselin
15.)Joseph Elzear Frederick "E.F." Saindon married Regina Delphine Juaire
Jean Archille Saindon - Born: July 27, 1846. Cacouna. Died: May 10, 1924. Zurich, Kansas
Married: February 18, 1873. St. George Catholic Church, Cacouna
Henriette Caron - Born: 1855. Isle Verte) descendent of Robert Caron. Died: May 4, 1935. Zurich, Kansas.
Their 15 children:
1.) Joseph George Saindon - Born: November 22, 1873. Cacouna, P.Q.
Died: September 12, 1959. Denver, Colorado.
Married: January 11, 1897. Zurich, Kansas
Bertha Deslongchamp
2.) Jean Archille Saindon, Jr. - Born: December 6, 1874. Cacouna, P.Q. Died 1910, Zurich, Kansas.
3.) Felix Joseph Saindon - Born October 11, 1875. Cacouna. P.Q. Died: <ay 26, 1942. Canon City, Colorado.
Married: 1896. Bracken, Nebraska.
Marie Adelaide Desbien
4. ) Marie Henriette Pomela Saindon - Born:October 11, 1876. Cacouna. P.Q.
Died: May 5, 1879. Cacouna, P.Q. May 6, 1878. Cacouna. P.Q.
5.) Marie Obeline Saindon - Born: May 6, 1878. Died: November 7, 1960. Kansas City, Missouri.
Married: February 17, 1896. Zurich, Kansas.
Phillip DesMarteau
6.) Edouard Auguste Saindon - Born: June 18, 1879. Cacouna.Died: October 15, 1890. Zurich, Kansas.
7.) Marie Amelia Saindon - Born: August 7, 1881. Cacouna. P.Q. Died: August 3, 1919.
Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Married: 1896. Zurich, Kansas.
Philip Roberts
8.) Joseph Celestin Saindon - Baptised: September 30, 1883. Cacouna, P.Q. Zurich, Kansas.
Died:July 9, 1962. Denver, Colorado
Married: May 5, 1908. Zurich, Kansas
Matilda Greenwood dit Boisvert
9.) Laura May/Mae Saindon - Born: May 8, 1885. Zurich, Kansas.
Died: November 27, 1971. Stockton, Kansas. Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Married: February 14, 1904.
Philisime Roy
10.) Ernest Saindon - Born: November 19, 1887. Zurich, Kansas. Died: May 30, 1973. Pomona, California.
Married: February 26, 1906
Regina Deslongchamp
11.) Celina Marie Saindon - Born: June 23, 1889. Zurich, Kansas. Died: April 29, 1971. Plainville, Kansas.
Buried: Zurich, Kansas.
Married: January 7, 1904. Zurich, Kansas.
Alexander Mongeau
12.) Elzear (Elger) Joseph Saindon - Born: September 13, 1890. Zurich, Kansas.
Died: July 12, 1954. Arvada. Colorado. Buried: Denver, Colorado.
Married: October 29, 1912. Zurich, Kansas
Clara Greenwood dit Boisvert
13.) Delia Mary Saindon - Born: February 15, 1892. Zurich, Kansas.
Died: July 22, 1965. Kansas City, Missouri.
Married 1.). June 1909.
Leo J. Betourne.
Married 2.) Roy Landis
14.) Frederick Joseph Saindon - Born April 16, 1893. Zurich, Kansas.
Died: June 16, 1974. Buried: Wheatridge, Colorado.
` ` Married: October 18, 1915. Zurich, Kansas.
Leona Filiatreault
15.) Amy Joseph Saindon - Born: January 6, 1896. Zurich, Kansas. Died: February, 5, 1971. Zurich, Kansas
Married 1.): February 15, 1915
Eveline Filiatreault dit St. Louis
Married 2.)
Josephine Morin.
John Roy (son of P.H. Roy and Laura Saindon)
married: Olive Morin Roy
Linda Roy (daughter of John Roy and Olive Morin)
married: David Monarchi
married: John Randolph Cross
Hebert
My Maternal Grandparents:
8th Generation:
Marie-Rose (Roseanna) Hebert: Born: October 22, 1875. Beaverville, Iroquois County, Illinois. Died: September 16, 1917 during childbirth. Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Married: January 19, 1894. St. Anne Church, Zurich, Kansas.
Stanislaus Morin - Born: May 7, 1862. St. Theodore D'Acton, P.Q. Died: June 10. 1929. Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Their recorded children:
1.) Anna Rosalie Morin - Born: February 25, 1896. Died. January 3, 1972.
Married: September 6, 1921.
Emile Anthony Desmarteau
2.) Alphonse Arthur Morin - Born: December 8, 1897. Died: July 7, 1966.
Married: September 7, 1920
Rosalie Elaine Desmarteau
3.) Angela Morin - Born: April 7, 1899. Died March 27, 1988. Concordia, Kansas.
Made religious vows under name, Sister Rose Irma Morin CSJ. Concordia, Kansas. August 15, 1926.
4.) Emile Morin. Born: 1901. Died: ?
5.) Mary Emma Morin - Born: June 4, 1900. Died: January 18, 1970
Married: February 10, 1920.
Oliver Francis Brin.
6.) Rosa Josephine Morin - Born: October 30, 1903. Died: January 18, 1970
Married: October 18, 1921.
Frank Med Balthazor
7.) Joseph Morin - Born: March 22, 1904. Died. September 1907.
8.) William (Edward) Morin - Born: October 23, 1904. Died: February 23, 1979.
Married: June 10, 1929.
Irene Delphine Roberts.
9.) Phillip Morin - Born: December 8, 1906. Died July 23, 1930. Engaged to be married.
10.) Joseph Henry Morin - Born: May 6, 1908. Died: August 24, 1973.
Married: October 28, 1931.
Lucille Harriette Desmarteau
11.) Olive Lena Morin - Born: July 31, 1914. Died: September 11, 1985. Rural Stockton. Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Married: August 23, 1932. St. Joseph Catholic Church, Damar, Kansas.
John Felix Roy - Born: June 21, 1910. Rural Damar, Kansas.
Died: November 30, 19787. Plainville, Kansas hospital. Buried: Damar, Kansas.
Linda Roy married: 1: David Monarchi
2: John Randolph Cross
12.) Levi Henri Morin - Born: July 22, 1916. Died: October 24, 1986. Omaha, Nebraska.
Married: March 26, 1951. Moline, Illinois.
Ona Rita Robicheau.
7th Generation:
Jean (Leon) Maximin Hebert - Born: May 6, 1841. Parish of St. Lambert (opposite Montreal on south shore of St. Lawrence. Bridge #132.) Immigrated to U.S. probably in 1856
Married: January 19, 1869 Iroquois County, Illinois. Died: April 30< 1926. Damar, Kansas.
Louise/Louisa Frigon - Born: May 22, 1841? 1845. Maskinonge County, Louiseville, P.Q. Died: 1933. Damar, Kansas
Their 14 children:
Henry Hebert 1869-1966 (married Elnora Vesper)
Nalda Hebert married Ezra St. Pierre
Joseph Leon Hebert 1872-1939
Marie Rose (Rosanna) Hebert 1875-1917 (married Stanislas Morin)
Victoria Exilda Hebert 1879-1880 married Adolph Senesac
Madoza Hebert 1885-1923 married Sam Davis
Rosalie Delia Hebert 1888-1876 married
Nelida Corneillia 1871 - 1926
Joseph Jeremie 1873 - 1939
Alfred 1878 - 1879
Frederic Napoleon/Fred 1882-1949
Roselda/Rosaelda Louise Hebert married Guillaum/William St. Pierre
6th Generation:
Francois Hebert Jr. dit Larose - Born: May 25, 1862. Died: January 16, 1866. Quebec.
Married: 1914??? (age 52)
#1 Marie Louis Lavoie.
Married July 16, 1838 in Germany. Her parents: Amable Corbeil and Marie Josephte Pigeon
#2. Marie Christine Corbeil - Born: @1813. Died: January 26, 1894. Sault au-Recollect, near Montreal
Their children:?
Xavier Hebert
Leon Hebert
Theophilus Hebert
Lewis
Domethilda Hebert dit Larose (Meltral Larose) married Laney
Louise/Louisa
Melina
Exilda
Henry
Nelda
Joseph
Rosanna
Osilda
5th Generation:
Francois Hebert
Married: August 20, 1790.
Marqerite Martin St. Lambert
4th Generation:
Francois Marie Hebert
Married: February 5, 1759.St. Lambert. Montreal or Ile de Montreal.
Veronique Francoise Groulx
3th Generation:
Jean Baptiste Hebert - Born: October 21/23, 1697. La Prairie, PQ. Died: June 22, 1758. St. Laurent PQ
Married: September 2, 1726. Ile de Montreal.
Marie Jeanne Jolivet dit Lespine/Lepine dit Joly - Born February 28, 1698 or 1699. Montreal
Children: Francois Marie Hebert married Marie Veronique Groulx
Marie Jeanne Hebert dit Lepine married Barthelemy Groulx
Amable Hebert dit Lepine married
1.) Marie Jean Baptiste Groulx
2.) Jacques Audin dit St. Audin
2nd Generation:
Thomas Hebert dit Larose- Born: 1663. St. Omer, diocese of Bayeux, Normandie Died: December 26, 1697. La Praire, Quebec pr Chamblay.
MARRIED: 1679 - Barbe Marie Benoit dit Livenois (b. 1665) . Baptised at Notre-Dame de Montreal 9 May 1665. She and her twin, Marie-Anne Benoit (5th birth) These twins are the second ever to be born in New France settlers. Her name appears during confirmations on May 25, 1676, the twins are then 11 years old. 4th daughter of Paul and Isabelle Elizabeth GOBINET.
Marriage ceremony on Feb. 7, 1679 at Ste-Famille-de-Boucherville. a suburb of Montreal on the South shore of the Saint Lawrence River celebrated by J G Debrullion priest, and present are de Paul Benoit, Elisabeth Gobinet, Pierre Duchesne dit St-Onge, Etienne Trudeau, and Francois Leber (Hebert.)
Census 1681, the couple live in La Prairie, he being 30 and she 16 years old. The census taker calls him Leber instead of Hebert, There were eventually 7 births to this couple.
Her first husband (Thomas Hebert) died, event unknown.
Children of Thomas and Barbe Hebert:
Barbe
Thomas
Jeanne
Genevieve
Marie
Marguerite Agathe
Jean Baptiste b. October, 1697
NOTE: Barbe's father, Paul Benoit (also Benoist) dit Livernois (also dit Nivernois). Born: April or June 6, 1626. Ville De Gonest, Fontaine, Xaintes, France. Residence of Chatillon en Bazois, Chateau Chinon, Nevers, Nivernais (Nievre), France. Departed
LaFleche * on May 25, 1653. Occupation: Carpenter. Obtained land, May 12, 1659. Died: January 1, 1686.
PAUL BENOIT AND ISABELLE ELIZETH GOBINET Married: September 16, 1658. Montreal. Q.
Isabelle Elizabeth Gobinet- Born: 1642. Died: January 1, 1686. Boucherville, Longueuil, Chambly, Quebec.
BARBE Granddaughter of Nicolas Gobinet and Marguerite Lorgeleus, Gonest, France.
Barbe Benoit Hebert remarried Francois Bory de Gandmaison 7 March 1699,
son of Laurent Bory de Grandmaison and Marguerite Merie d'Aupre.
Two more children will be born to this union, she died before 1704
and a total of 9 births are known to Barbe.
Barbe's second husband, Francois Bory remarried a 3rd time Marie-Anne Diel October 27, 1704 at Laprairie and had one more daughter who died as an infant.
Francois Bory was killed in 1711, while involved in a "en filibust" or attack against the English. A small trunk was returned to Laprairie and an assembly of parents was held 34 November to declare tutors for his children.
1st Generation: Thomas HEBERT B. 1648
married Elisabeth L'HOMME.
Born St. Omer, Bayeux, Normandie, 1620, Died 1681. Quebec.
* In 1606 Descartes was sent to the Jesuit college at La Flèche, established in 1604 by Henry IV (reigned 1589–1610). At La Flèche, 1,200 young men were trained for careers in military engineering, the judiciary, and government administration. In addition to classical studies, science, mathematics, and metaphysics—Aristotle was taught from scholastic...